Rosalind & Robert Lutece (
quantumtwin) wrote2013-10-24 08:51 am
permissions post;
Coming from a canon which allowed the twins to travel through the time and space dimensions, they could almost always predict the outcome of just about any situation. It was their personal experiment to add variables to the constant that was Booker DeWitt's life. And for more than one hundred attempts, it always came out to one of two endings. Spoilersss~
My goal in Maison is to cancel out their traveling abilities while still keeping them in touch with that timespace warp. I'll do this by using a less glorified version of their creation of the Lutece Tear, they will be able to witness the alternate dimension from outside the small bubble— Unable to enter the dimension as they normally would.
I'm only asking permission from you about specific moments in your character's history or future that changes their canon ending that you allow the Twins to be share with your character or something they simply hint at your character if you do not want them to be spoiled of their future.
not the sexy kind of CR with the Luteces, fill out the thingy below and we can plot stuff!
I would like to reiterate that I will likely be doing research on your canon just to make sure I understand context, but in the event that I don't have time (or if it's too far into the series) I would really appreciate as many details about the situation as possible and needed that the twins would be capable of knowing. This means that knowledge they 'see' through their tears in the warp will only be limited to what you tell me.
If you don't want the Lutece's to flat out expose their knowledge of your character, they can drop hints every now and again just to freak your character out. It's all up to you! And of course, if I ever go too far with the information be sure to let me know and I'll edit/retcon anything I need to. I'll always try to be careful to maintain your permissions, so I hope this won't happen.
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I may edit this as needed, but for now this is just the basic information I think I'll need to begin plotting with you!
My goal in Maison is to cancel out their traveling abilities while still keeping them in touch with that timespace warp. I'll do this by using a less glorified version of their creation of the Lutece Tear, they will be able to witness the alternate dimension from outside the small bubble— Unable to enter the dimension as they normally would.
I'm only asking permission from you about specific moments in your character's history or future that changes their canon ending that you allow the Twins to be share with your character or something they simply hint at your character if you do not want them to be spoiled of their future.
- Game characters which are capable of multiple endings based upon player decisions.
- Any other character who has experienced an alternate timeline of any sort (Buffy/Angel, Supernatural, etc etc).
- If your character has had a major plot point decision that could have changed the entire outcome of their story, the twins may (with permission and your headcanon guidance) would know small things about the opposite decision made by your character.
I would like to reiterate that I will likely be doing research on your canon just to make sure I understand context, but in the event that I don't have time (or if it's too far into the series) I would really appreciate as many details about the situation as possible and needed that the twins would be capable of knowing. This means that knowledge they 'see' through their tears in the warp will only be limited to what you tell me.
If you don't want the Lutece's to flat out expose their knowledge of your character, they can drop hints every now and again just to freak your character out. It's all up to you! And of course, if I ever go too far with the information be sure to let me know and I'll edit/retcon anything I need to. I'll always try to be careful to maintain your permissions, so I hope this won't happen.
- Your Name and Way of Contact
- Your Character Name and Canon
- Are the Lutece's able to see the decisions/moments that have changed your character's path?
- What about these decisions/moments can they know?
- Are they able to see the alternate outcomes of these decisions?
- What is significant / What should they know about these alternate outcomes?
- Has your character personally experienced an alternate timeline in their canon?
- Can the Twins know about that alternate timeline? What should they know about it?
- Would you like them to be discreet with this information? Can they blurt it out or should they drop hints?
I may edit this as needed, but for now this is just the basic information I think I'll need to begin plotting with you!

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I may do a few short things for each of mine to fill out what'd probably stick out to them for mine in an easier to sift through format than apps/etc., will attach links at end of this later!
Your Character Name and Canon: Giotto, Katekyo Hitman Reborn (
Are the Lutece's able to see the decisions/moments that have changed your character's path? Sure! His app copy is here and I've got a headcanon post with more of his background here. More recently in Maison, due to other things, if they try to see decisions/shaping moments in the house, you might want to ask a mod.
What about these decisions/moments can they know? The way Giotto's powers work mean that besides the example of certain things in the House, it's pretty open; he'll actually do a sort of projective-empathy a times.
Are they able to see the alternate outcomes of these decisions? Yep! Branching timelines and parallel worlds are a part of his canon!
What is significant / What should they know about these alternate outcomes? If he hadn't formed the Vongola, it likely would've ended with their reality destabilizing entirely; his ring is part of a set that helps act to maintain stability of the timeline structure. The rest get more complicated, and have a few things that'd be character-important, too.
Has your character personally experienced an alternate timeline in their canon? Yes! After a fashion, while he was residing in the ring. They got thrown forward in time to a possible future to deal with something destabilizing things in a way that was echoing out over the "tree"; once it was resolved, they were sent back to their own time with enough clues to prevent that future in their timeline and avert that kind of instability.
Can the Twins know about that alternate timeline? What should they know about it? Sure thing! Basically someone who had the "lead" of one of the other groups of relics that helps with timeline stability caught wind that hypothetically, if you had control of all three, you could alter reality at will and tried to go for it... with the result that he ended up destroying the other two sets. Giotto got this from the perspective of the ring, which might mean a little more awareness of things being fucked, but a lot of fragmented, disjointed bits of events with gaps of vague empathic impressions.
Would you like them to be discreet with this information? Can they blurt it out or should they drop hints? Honestly Giotto's likely to be kind of fascinated by it, do whatever feels appropriate!
Your Character Name and Canon Rokudou Mukuro
Are the Lutece's able to see the decisions/moments that have changed your character's path? Not often; if Daemon Spade/Rosario is either inhabiting the earrings, or in the owl within five feet of him, he'll be a blank space as if nothing exists there and there is no timeline. If Spade's in the other earring with Chrome or the owl's more than five feet away, then they can see it. Have fun with that. There's a few in Maison that you may need to ask a mod about here too/they may not be able to read as easily, although I don't know if it'd be as dramatic as Giotto's.
What about these decisions/moments can they know? Pretty much the outline of events; he may be a little headache-worthy thanks to the "filtering multiple other lives through a human body" thing. I am actually okay with them being able to catch as much fragments of the other lives as he is as stuff threaded into his timeline.
Are they able to see the alternate outcomes of these decisions? Sure!
What is significant / What should they know about these alternate outcomes? The two big dramatic ones to shorthand are if he hadn't succeeded at killing his family as a bitty, which would've led to them turning into something massive and horrifying and thrown off a lot of the current history (sadly I have AU'ed this out), and if he hadn't agreed to the offer of taking up the Mist Ring, which's a part of the same set as the one Giotto lived in.... which would've meant the Vongola set going to a group that would've been rejected and things destabilizing on a lesser/slower scale.
Has your character personally experienced an alternate timeline in their canon? Not directly. He has a sort of memory-dump from the same alternate future mentioned with Giotto. (His future self from that timeline is ALSO in the house, played by another player, and they've met, if that counts.)
Can the Twins know about that alternate timeline? What should they know about it? I imagine it being basically a "here have knowledge of what happened via memories of your other self for this span of time" would make it hazier than what they'd get from Giotto.
Would you like them to be discreet with this information? Can they blurt it out or should they drop hints? Purely up to you! He's used to timeline weirdness.
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Are the Lutece's able to see the decisions/moments that have changed your character's path? Thanks to something in the house, nope! In fact, an area about personal-space-bubble around him, whether earring or owl, is a blank space of nada.
Would you like them to be discreet with this information? Can they blurt it out or should they drop hints? Whichever you want/whatever they would actually want to say about it!
Your Character Name and Canon: Kuja
Are the Lutece's able to see the decisions/moments that have changed your character's path? He has the same effect as Spade. Have fun! If they can read from something that's basically "overly smart animal", they might get something off Sondren, his dragon, when Sondren's more than five feet from him.
What about these decisions/moments can they know? Sondren's part of it isn't real complicated; he perked up and got picked when Kuja needed a mount/help getting around, got to go from a dead world to a living one, and got controlled by Kuja's creator to attack others that were interfering, dying in the process.
Are they able to see the alternate outcomes of these decisions? If Sondren hadn't it would've been one of the other silver dragons. If Garland hadn't controlled Sondren he probably would've tried to leash-yank Kuja or used other defense systems, and it would've been one less hairline crack before Kuja broke down completely, but wouldn't have averted that.
What is significant / What should they know about these alternate outcomes? Sondren is not really the biggest player in things, sadly.
Has your character personally experienced an alternate timeline in their canon? Nope!
Would you like them to be discreet with this information? Can they blurt it out or should they drop hints? Have fun with the confusion!
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Are the Lutece's able to see the decisions/moments that have changed your character's path? Yep! He's stone normal. The only one in the house that might be an "ask a mod" is the burn scar on his forehead.
What about these decisions/moments can they know? The big ones before the House are when he was about seven or eight and got in trouble trying to "Help", but was stubborn enough that his mother took him to England where he'd be less of a target and she could vaguely point him constructive directions; a missing persons case when he was twelve that he was handed by himself as a "this probably is just someone who got drunk and hasn't checked in yet" that led to him facewalling into a very nasty serial killer; and looking at an "at worst public nuisance" overdramatic master thief, noticing some things off that pointed at something worse around that case, and decided to obsessively chase it.
Are they able to see the alternate outcomes of these decisions? Yes!
What is significant / What should they know about these alternate outcomes? If he hadn't continued the detective work thing when his father/a few others tried to force him away from it, he probably would've depressive-spiraled hard and bad as a little kid. The next big turning point was a case when he was twelve; if he hadn't been as stubborn and had given up, he wouldn't have a bunch of injuries/trauma, but the serial killer would've gone on unnoticed for a likely LONG time, and probably have a death toll approaching triple digits since he was going for homeless/people that wouldn't be noticed missing, also Saguru wouldn't have been taken seriously as "capable" for several more years. If he hadn't started chasing Kaitou Kid and had left alone the "something bad is up", there's some odds of the group Kid's up against having killed him already, and he'd still be a lot more isolated/"I do not social period".
Has your character personally experienced an alternate timeline in their canon? Nope!
Would you like them to be discreet with this information? Can they blurt it out or should they drop hints? Whatever seems appropriate at the time, I have no preference!
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Are the Lutece's able to see the decisions/moments that have changed your character's path? Yes. /evil player handrub plotting. His app copy with background is on his journal!
What about these decisions/moments can they know?
1) Studying abroad in Europe was a big one, since it meant him meeting someone that was a good friend at the time, Zane.
2) Being uneasy about the signs of something weird around them/them being able to channel other power when Zane started messing with it.
3) Deciding to give in and use it to try to stop Zane when Zane first got possessed.
4) The Four Horsemen deciding to grab him on the coin toss, breaking him out of the possession.
5) Him bolting on them after they had it bound solid, and going into hiding.
6) There's several incidents of Zane trying to provoke him into using his power and undoing the bindings scattered here and there.
7) Deciding not to leave the caravan when there started being too many people there that would be Involved in Things he usually avoided.
8) Grumbling but not speaking up, complaining, or disappearing when Andras decided to go off "looking for this hypothetical person who totally isn't sitting right over there", using him as bait to draw Zane away from the front lines/populated areas.
Are they able to see the alternate outcomes of these decisions? Yes!
What is significant / What should they know about these alternate outcomes?
1) Never would've met Zane, leading to no actual connection between them; would've used his powers in a panic when things went wrong, gotten possessed sooner the "Angel" would've had a longer rampage and likely reduced most of North America to ash and salt before a direct confrontation happened and the Horsemen getting a chance to reign it in. There's also a bit of leverage that hasn't come into play yet that wouldn't exist.
2) If he hadn't been unsure, would've gotten possessed sooner, with less of a struggle, and been harder to break out of it; it might've ended up being something where the Horsemen would've had to kill him to break its ability to wreck things in this plain.
3) If he hadn't used it, Zane probably would've killed him; the short term would be "easier" since there would've only been one rampaging deity-being, but long term "harder" because the one using him would've found another channel that would've probably been more willing.
4) Zane would've been more likely to try and risk testing the bindings occasionally to use bits and pieces of his power, and more likely to try to go get involved in things - which probably would've done some good, but have a high risk of him getting possessed again before anything was rebuilt enough to think about dealing with it. David's possessed rampage would've been harder to stop, also, meaning more damage before they managed to deal with it.
5) This kind of was a dumb/more unpredictable. If he'd stayed with them, they would've been able to prevent a lot of #6, and likely would've been sort of voluntary-experimenting trying to figure out how to deal with the being using him; he wouldn't have been around any populated areas when the other one got loose, and they'd be juggling keeping him out of reach right now.
6) If he'd used his powers to defend himself, it would've taken over again, and it probably would've been "The apocalypse restarted and nobody was prepared".
7) If he'd left, he would've been chased down several times, probably end up taken captive, and the "Holy King" messing with thing would've forced the bindings broken and opened the door for it. (Never play chicken on the end of the world with someone who's a channel for a nihilist void-being.)
8) If he'd spoken up, there'd have been a lot more bitching, a very different route taken that would've avoided some train wrecks but given more openings to take shots at them, and they'd have been less aimed straight at the heart of enemy territory and more "Let's lure him this way into the Horsemen"; further outcome would be future. If he'd bolted, it would've gone to 7.
Has your character personally experienced an alternate timeline in their canon? No, but he knows a guy from one, and hangs around someone who regularly fits between planes/realms/timelines?
Can the Twins know about that alternate timeline? What should they know about it? I don't know if secondhand association would help much, and Ryan's timeline is a fairly normal 2011 modern-Earth.
Would you like them to be discreet with this information? Can they blurt it out or should they drop hints? Whatever they want if it comes up somehow. (He'll probably spazz pretty impressively at first if they're blunt about it.)
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*Several early ones are meeting G and deciding to be OK with the rough somewhat-bigger kid following him around, fighting back when his father's shop was getting harassed and deciding to start finding others/fighting and taking the fight to the groups taking advantage of the chaos.
- If he had taken more offense to G, he would've been sans his closest friend and support. High likelihood of getting killed when he was still 13-14, if he hadn't he would've had his nervous breakdown a HELL of a lot sooner, in the middle of the war, and it would've been ugly.
- If he hadn't done the fighting back thing, at some point him and his family probably would've ended up casualties; also that third part of hte Tri-ni-Sette would've gone longer without someone to support it, which would've been bad for the timestreams.
- The next really big one involves signing a peace treaty with some of the other underworld groups against the advice of some of his people, including a couple close friends that were his intel leaders. If he hadn't signed it, it would've probably just meant the open fighting going on a bit longer, but them being in a better position for it; it'd be a toss-up/very muddy/a lot of possibilities on how much that'd throw off other future events. If Elena hadn't died in the ambush following it, she would've been able to keep Spade more under control and probably start working on Giotto's breakdown. (He thinks there's more that're high-odds than there are.)
- He's got a wobble that would really mean the timeline going ... very different in a "it wouldn't blow up but it'd be very weird to people from the normal timeline" if he'd gotten Spade under control and confronted him rather than retreated/let Spade kill him.
- He's been a ring. His options were limited. There's a few small ones - "If your son hadn't been brilliant and worried about you, you'd have had less trauma and your granddaughter would've gotten things under control faster", "If you HADN'T snapped and started torching people who took the ring just for power the organization you built would've been kind of horrifying", but most of the big wobbles he wouldn't even have been really aware of.
- Oh, the stable time loop would've been something where, if that hadn't been addressed, the person responsible - who IS aware of and able to play across parallels - would've reinforced it to the point that it probably would've meant not only their timeline imploding, but every parallel where his existence was a possibility.
This might mean glimpses of what could be done with the whole "ability to go across parallels" with someone over-ambitious and lacking in any real grounding or care for the consequences of their actions, which would have a different perspective from Mukuro if they catch him wihtout Spade, or future!Mukuro if Chips is OK with things.